Santa Fe, 1948: piloto veterano vê disco branco parado; o colega descreve outro objeto

INCIDENT SUMMARY SHEET | Incident No. 175 | 1. Date and Time of Observation: 23 Sept 1948 0945 | 2. Where Sighted: Sante Fe, New Mexico | 3. Observer's Position (i.e., ground, air, control tower, etc.): Ground, southwest from Plaza of Santa Fe, N. M. | 4. Name and Address of Observer: A. Ruble Angier, 2620 Proctor St, Waco, Texas | 5. Occupation and/or hobbies: Neon Sign Manufacturer - own employer; A pilot since 1928 - not a hobby | 6. Attention Attracted by: Saw object glint while watching another aircraft | 7. Number of Object(s) Seen: 1 | 8. Size of Object(s): At least 100 to 150 feet in diameter | 9. Color of Object(s): white | 10. Shape (Sketch if Possible): perfectly flat in appearance - compared to dime in sky. | 11. Nature of Luminosity (directed beam of light?): - Sighted in daylight | 12. Altitude of Object (estimated): 25,000 to 30,000 feet | 13. Estimated Distance of Object from Observer: N/S | 14. Estimated Speed of Object: Stationary at time sighted | 15. Time in sight: 15 or 20 minutes | 16. Tactics: Very little movement if any noticed | 17. Sound Made by Object(s): No sound determined at time of sighting | 18. Direction of Flight of Object(s): Stationary - Seemed to move in a semi-circle, from S. to E. and finally to NE. May have been optical illusion. | 19. Apparent Construction: Not determined | 20. Effect on Clouds: No clouds | 21. Exhaust Trail (Color of): No evidence of exhaust noticed | 22. Manner of Disappearance: Still in view when observer left | 23. Weather Conditions at Time of Sighting: CAVU | 24. Peculiarities Noted: Gave the appearance of being flat | 25. Summary of Incident: (over) (See attached page)

Incident 175 | While watching a government plane come in for a landing at Los Alamos at 0940 hours 23 Sept 1948, witness noticed something glint in the sun. Focusing his attention on the object he perceived that it was perfectly white, neither transparent or translucent and that it had no metallic sheen. It was perfectly circular, the side visible to him being flat - much as a coin would appear when observed from a distance. It appeared no larger than a dime. Lining it up in relation to the tip of the radio tower he backed off to the north. The object appeared clear out of the picture in relation to the tower. Using this perspective he judged the altitude to be approximately 30,000 ft. At this altitude the object would necessarily be some 100 to 150 feet in size in order to be visible at all. There were no projections, air-trails, or exhaust of any kind. He called the object to the attention of Mr Fairchild, his companion. Both men then went into a building transacted their business and at the end of eight minutes they went outside and perceived the object in approximately the same position. From the time Angier first saw the object to his last observation was approximately 15 to 20 minutes. AGENTS NOTES: Mr Angier is approximately 50 years of age, well settled and conducts his own business. He is an experienced pilot, comes from a middle-class family, is a little above average in intelligence and is a good conversationalist. He told a straight-forward story and did not contradict himself. He appeared honest in his convictions in his belief that he saw an unconventional aircraft. He was convinced that the object was not a weather balloon since he is familiar with weather balloons.

INCIDENT SUMMARY SHEET | Incident No. 175a | 1. Date and Time of Observation: 23 Sept 48 0930 | 2. Where Sighted: Santa Fe, N. M. | 3. Observer's Position: ground | 4. Name and Address of Observer: Mr John C. Fairchild | 5. Occupation and/or hobbies: Building Superintendent; drawing, mechanical inclinations also woodworking & photography | 6. Attention Attracted by: Glint of light | 7. Number of Object(s) Seen: 1 | 8. Size of Object(s): 150 - 200 feet estimated size | 9. Color of Object(s): bright silvery object | 10. Shape (Sketch if Possible): oblong egg shape | 11. Nature of Luminosity: saw just a silver streak | 12. Altitude of Object (estimated): 30,000 feet | 13. Estimated Distance of Object from Observer: 7 miles | 14. Estimated Speed of Object: 700 or 800 MPH | 15. Time in sight: N/S | 16. Tactics: Straight course | 17. Sound Made by Object(s): None | 18. Direction of Flight of Object(s): Northeast - Southwest | 19. Apparent Construction: Unknown | 20. Effect on Clouds: Clear sky | 21. Exhaust Trail (Color of): Bluish appearance to rear | 22. Manner of Disappearance: Faded from view | 23. Weather Conditions at Time of Sighting: CAVU | 24. Peculiarities Noted: Sort of a sunflower shape at the end of object seemed to be apart from object but close on its tail | 25. Summary of Incident: (over) (See attached page)

Incident: 175a | Statement of Mr John C. Fairchild does not tally with that of A. Ruble Angier. See Incident 175. Mr Fairchild saw a bright silvery oblong or egg-shaped object which appeared to have a speed of 700 to 800 MPH and which seemed to have a sort of sunflower shape at the end of it but apart from the object and close on its tail. He perceived a bluish appearance to rear of the object which could have been exhaust. To him the object appeared silvery instead of white and oblong rather than round. Mr Angier thought the object remained stationary. However the discrepancy in time could have accounted for this. Apparently Mr Fairchild observed the object some 15 minutes before Mr Angier observed it. Also it would seem that he watched it for a greater length of time in that he mentions that it faded from view whereas Mr Angier stated that it was still in view when he left.